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>> you know, the message was clear the entire time for, for whatever amount of money you get, it wouldn't be worth, you know, damaging what the motivation was and the motivation was just to expose him for what he said. >> what about your personal situation? how much did this play into the video and what you heard? you didn't have health insurance. >> no. >> at all. >> no health insurance. your savings was modest at best. >> sure. >> struggle like everybody else does, or a lot of other people do. >> so this really rang hard with you. >> yeah. you know, it wasn't an easy thing do. the person i'm with happens to be incredibly -- she's great. and she probably deserves an award more than i do. >> what do you want to do? >> you know, my dream was probably always to go to law school. that would be a dream. but i just take it as it comes. see how it goes.
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>> do you have any regrets. do you worry about the future? >> no. once i made the decision and you know, i feel good about it and feel good about the way it turned out, so no, i don't have any regrets. it turned out exactly the way i would have hoped it would. i will move forward and play it by ear and take it as it comes. >> again, to reiterate, why did you do this? why? why would you put yourself out there like this? >> you know, like the people need to hear what someone really believes. they needed to hear what he really thinks. he was just saying the absolute opposite in public. and i just felt like that, you know, just watch him on tv and that just wasn't what he was saying in public. so it just -- everybody needed to hear that. >> so you knew you had a unique seat in history as to what had been said. >> yeah, i thought it could be a game-changer. i thought maybe he would leave the campaign at that point. >> okay, scott prouty, thanks
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for your time. >> thank you. >> thanks for doing this on the ed show. >> thank you. thank you for speaking up for workers all across america. that's the reason i'm here today is because you have a voice that i think we need more voices like yourself. >> i appreciate that like yourself. thank you. and that is the ed show. i'm ed schultz. "the rachel maddow show" starts right now. >> good evening and thanks for stay withi staying with us. i'm obviously not rachel maddow. she has a long day off, in which she is working most likely. the obama administration climate policy. same-sex marriage in at capital punishment and the future, yes, future of hugo chavez.
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in recent years cpac has become, for whatever reason, a big thing. a big thing for the conservative movement and a big thing for the media who cover the movement. this year, 2,000, 2,000, press credentials, issued. it has still been a big event. it exerts this massive gravitational pull on center right politics. who is invited, who's not invited is a story. what the big-name speakers say, when they get there is a story. for a study and stylistic contrast, though not substantive ones, today 2012 republican presidential mitt romney and donald trump. >> the fact is, we're run by either very foolish or very stupid people.
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what's going on in this country is unbelievable. our can country is a total mess. a total and complete mess. >> it's fashionable in some circles to be pessimistic about america. about conservative solutions. about the republican party. i udderly reject pessimism. we may not have cared on november 7, but we have not lost the country we love and we have not lost our way. i'm sorry that i won't be your president but i will be your coworker and i will work shoulder along shoulder along side you. >> coworker. mitt romney, coworkers, that's adorable. the cpac is a big industry convention or appeal of south by southwest for hipsters. a buchblg of other people who are into the same stuff you're into. they're all going to be there. and if you're young and in college or just after college,
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there will be parties and alcohol and maybe a little extra curricular activity on the side after hours. and liberals, liberals get a thrill out of cmac adds well because it is the political adversary on display. allowing liberals and progressives to get their hate on as they watch people whose politics they can't stand say things that liberals hate hearing. >> i want you to take a look at that stack of paper behind me. it is the most powerful argument yet against obama care. this law is a disaster. anybody who thinks we moved beyond it is dead wrong. obama care should be repealed, root and branch. and i want you know, we're not backing down from this fight. >> for liberals, cpac represents
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a rare moment when the armies of reaction are bunkered in one place. things that stand in the way of the world being the way we want them to be are all there. the obstacles it progress, all in one defined geographic area, one convention center. but thing is, the obstacles for progress really have two different component. there are the ideal og of people showing up at cpac and people organized at cpac then the interests, who unlike donald trump for example don't want you to know who they are. aren't looking to find free booze while stocking around adams morgan at 11:00 p.m. on friday night. they just want to keep running things the way they've been running them. and while cpac was going on today a few miles away, we saw a window into what it looks like when those interests, ones outside of the spotlight, ones not in front of the cameras, when they get to do what they want to do. this is iena drew, former chief investment officers for j.p.
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morgan chase, testifying before the united states senate today. again she is not a famous person. you have probably never heard her name before. she helped oversee one of the most colossal hits of the financial system we have seen since the great recession. she oversaw what has become known -- what has become known as whale trades, a series of disastrous j.p. morgan trades uncovered last year which nearly brought the global financial system to its knees again the whale in this case is a london trader for j.p. morgan who made a series of risky derivative bets that ultimately blew up. the bests can cost j.p. morgan more than, get this, $6 billion in losses. and that sort of shook financial markets around the world when it was discovered. j.p. morgan executives in charge at the time those bets were made were hauled before senate panel today one day after nine-month senate investigation conclude id the banks ignored risks, and fought with regulators trying to contain the crisis. >> the derivative trading that
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produced the whale trades damaged a single bank. but the whale trades exposed problems that reach far beyond one london trading desk or one wall street office tower. the american people have already suffered one devastating economic assault rooted largely in wall street excess. they cannot afford another. when wall street plays with fire, american families get burned. the task of federal regulators and of this congress is to take away the matches. the whale trades demonstrated that this task is far from complete. >> this democratic senator carl levin of michigan who has been incredible in investigating this kind of malfeasance. he said in opening remarks that one of the lessons of these whale trades is that quote more control is needed. more control is needed. the forces of reaction in this country are extremely well practiced in the diversion tactics of of a sidewalk pick pocket. the big flourish hand jets tour is donald trump and marco rubio
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an rand paul. that the flourish that draws your attention ppt other hand the one that is snatching wur wallet is the army of faceless nameless lobbyist who work for companies like j.p. morgan chase who as we speak right now at this moment are fighting tooth and nail against every single rule in the wall street reform bill passed by congress and sign need law by president obama two and half years ago. doing that far away from headlines and far away from public scrutiny. no 2,000 press passes issued in order to preserve their reckless bets for which they make a lot of money if they work ut and for which they are insured by the company if they don't. those two interests, the flourished hand and the hand in your purposes, can be extremely powerful when they are together. mitch mcconnell who spoke at cpac today, is busy bidding in the financial industry by trying to prevent us as country by having the firm hand of the protection buro on the agency
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that is supposed to protect consumesers. the mitch mcconnell and 42 others -- not because richard corps dray is bad guy but because they don't like the fact that tht age sin exist. they object to the existence. tim pawlenty found itself with a roundtable. now trying to weaken the dodd-frank wall street law at every turn. a long time members of the senate committee is a high paid lobbyists where he will represent the same interest in which he was in charge of regulating. you will find yourself walletless in no time. joining us now is alexis goldstein, former vice president at deutsche bank, now an activist, contributor to the
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nation, alexis, great to see you. how are you? >> great. great to be here, chris. >> you were tweeting the heck out of this hearing. first, walk us through the issue here in layman's terms as much as possible. we had this trader and he was making super large bets and somehow no one was putting a check on him. >> so there's a lot of deception going on about this. has been going on for a long time. so internally what was reveal bed this report that the committee of investigations put out, a 300-page report, and what was revealed from the hearing today, is that they did know something was going on. as early as january. there are things called risk limit. that's like a line in the sand where if you blow through it it is a red flag. something fun sooe going on. we need look into it. as early as january multiple risk limits were being blown through and this was known bit bank and known at the highest levels but the bank did not say anything. jamie dimon did not say anything when he came before the senate
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and when they add call with investors in april, they did not report anything. >> so their cover gets blown. people start talking about it. i know, i have reported on this, that people in hedge funds are talking about who is this person with the massive bets accruing. they call them the london wlal. we know about this, right? people at j.p. morgan are saying, we're not sure about what is going on. now it turns out they knew more than they were admitting. my question to you is what is the question behind that kind of risk taking and policy on the table. are there things right now in dodd-frank or things down the line that would stop them from taking on those kind of risks? >> they are absolutely is. so i want it zoom out for a second and make everyone aware of where this is happening and where this risky trade was happening. >> please. >> it was happening in the chief investment office. this is where your money, your deposit or money, excess deposits wab technical term that means depositor money that isn't lo loaned out. this investment office did not
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invest our money in really safe things. they invested it in risky, risky trades. there is a part of dodd-frank called the vocal rule that is about this exact same thing. saying that banks that enjoy fdic insurance, they are ton make risky bets and are not what to do proprietary trade. this rule has yet to be finalized. we have been waiting for a very long time. it is supposed to be done at the end of this quarter but it needs to be air tight. because if this rule is not strong and is not done in a complete way, we are going to see more things like this. where banks are taking our money and slapping us in the face in the wake of the bailouts and basically gambling with our deposits. >> so i want it reiterate. you deposit your paycheck, you get direct deposit, it goes into your bank account. there is some set of funds sitting there that are the deposits of americans in the bank, right? and that money is invested by this wing of the bank and it is supposed to be invested in safe things rather than a reckless bet on some crazy thing
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happening in terms of the greek currency for instance, right? >> right. it is excess deposits is technical term. anything that isn't loaned out to mortgage or small business is an excess deposit meant to be invested in something safe. >> so right now, we have seen this and you and i have have talked about this on my show. we've seen this remarkable battle happening underneath the kind of structure under dodd-frank in which lobbyists are trying to undermine the rules. what direction is the voccer rule, this crucial, crucial part of the reform, where is the status of that? >> the status is they are trying to complete the final rule. there are a lot of questions about what will and will not be permitted. there is a question about a london sized whale loophole that will go into the final rule. to get critical there is portfolio hedging. by the way, hedging means if i buy one thing, how i do offset in case i lose money. it makes a lot of sense to hedge
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individual trades. but there's an skejs exemption in the voel ker rule and for a long time jamie dimon was claiming this with a a hedge. now, however, today in the testimony, they made it clear that this was not a hedge. multiple people from j.p. morgan said that. so they lied to us last year. jaime dimon lied before the senate and i would love to see the doj comes and ask questions about whether they made material misstatements and violated securities fraud. >> alexis goldstein, now a wall street activist, thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you for having me. a huge thing happened in maryland today. i'm excited to talk to the guy who made it happen right here. also, the massive secret national security apparatus united states government built after 9/11 may still be massive. today it is a little let secretive. in an amazing and unexpected way. we will tell you, straight ahead. stay with us. all stations come over to mission a for a final go.
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without public scrutiny. despite the hopes and objections of folks on the left and some on the right recently president obama continued to assert a prerogative of secrecy on wiretaps and capture of suspected terrorists and targeted killing in countries we are not technically at war with. time and again the courts have deferred the white house. the courts have gone along. at administration tells judges before a court, the court didn't even have the power to review a case because of the president's broad authorities to keep things secret. and the courts would say, you're right. today, in two separate rulings, two courts that have nothing to do with each other struck back that prerogative. in one ruling a u.s. district court in california banned the secret letters used by fbi to demand detail customer data from banks and internet companies so-called national security letters for today the justice department argued that even challenging the government's authority to make this kind of demand was against the law. today the clinton appointed judge in the case ruled the
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national security letters violate the right to free speech. she banned them outright. second case comes from a three-judge panel in the circuit of the district of columbia sec to the united states supreme court in national influence. in that one the panel of two chinton appointees and one bush appointees ruled unanimously the cia can't keep the drone program so completely secret that a lawsuit asking about it is dismissed at hand. the can cia must give the court a description of records it keeps on drone strikes. while we are not likely to see the records now posted on white house.gov there are new limits on white house privilege and that's extremely big news. joining us is deputy legal director jameel offer. jameel, good to have you here tonight. >> thank you. good to be here. >> walk me through this case.
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you go to the gopt government and say, through freedom of information act we are empowered by the statute to get information about you and the government are doing. what happened next. >> we asked for information about the cia's use of drones to carry out targeted killings. the answer the cia gave us is that it couldn't confirm or deny any vf vof many in the targeting can kill prague gram without jeopardizing national. they said we can't even process your freedom act req and that's the question that we took up. initially with the district court. then to the court of appeals. the question was, account cia really respond or not respond to freedom of information act request this this way and the decision we got today is a decision that the cia can't do that. the cia has to process freedom of information act requests. it can't claim that its interest in the targeted killing program
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is a secret. it is a very narrow victory in a way because if in a way all the court is saying is that you the cia have to acknowledge what everybody knows to be true. but on the other hand, it can have significant procedural implications because it means that cia now has to explain which records it's holding. about the drones. >> it has to respond within the sort of four lines of -- >> exactly. >> it can't just say, the process, we are cutting off the process before we are even responding. within the bounds of the process they have to say, well, look, there are these documents and you can't see them because these documents are very secret. >> right. not that they have to explain which document they have, they have to say why they are not released. >> give a reason. >> right. and that's an important step. >> one of the things that is fascinating in reading the circuit court opinion is that one of the things that undercut the cia's argument is that recently there's been so much
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talk in washington by members of official dom, sometimes in hearing rooms, about what cia is simultaneously saying, we cannot admit exists. >> that's the crazy and comical thing is that the cia would talk to reporters or government officials would talk to reporters, president went on jay leno and talked about the drone program. then the cia would say, this is a secret. and not only is it a secret but it would jeopardizes to even mention it. this decision narrows the gap between those two things, at least a little bit. >> the courts have been really quite differential and reluctant. seems like this was a high water mark hit in which the court was pushing back against a lot of assertions both in the secrecy front and just sort of executive authority front. a lot of that had to do we detainee treatment during the bush era. seems like the courts have been
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much more differential the last three or fours years. maybe you don't think that's the case. but it seems to me that's the way the wind are blowing. and i wonder if you think that the cultural and political shift that we've seen around this issue, particularly on targeting can killing affects the courts. courts are embedded this that same national conversation. >> that's good question. it is hard for me so t.o. sato say, i don't know what goes on behind closed doors. you know, this is a decision that is based largely on things that happened in the public domain. it is based largely on what government officials were talking about to the press and in speeches at universities and in law schools. so the judges are aware of all of that and we introduced that kind of thing into the record. and when we litigate these cases. and deputy legal director of the ac aclu, thank you for coming in tonight. >> thank you. >> this one dave worth of psych
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francisco, harvey. >> yeah. >> harvey, that could be really dangerous. there is such a thing as a right to privacy. >> in this moment at this time, i'm not saying this as a supervisor, try tell willing the truth for a change. if there is anyone in this room right now who hasn't told their family, friends, employers, do it now. >> my folks know already. >> my dad doesn't know yet. >> thif they know, they know on of us.
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>> when a gay person comes out to their parents and perhaps the t is tentative and conditional and as they become more comfortable with a gay child and they say their gay child in relationships and he is their heartache and pain if the same and they see the love and commitment is the same as their straight children and that can radically trance farm family and it's our super power. >> rob portman. i is a republican senator from ohio. first as member of the house or one of his major legislative victories in the 199 0es is the defensive marriage act. he is defin rob /* rob port man sure only men and women had the right to marry. then as united states trade representative and then white house budget director 2010 rob
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mortman ran for senate in ohio and won. in the course of his 20 years in service rob portman has been a pretty run of the mill republican. people think of him as a numbers guy. in fact the romney campaign considered him for vice president but people argued he was too boring. that's right, too boring to be vice president which is quite something. today that dependable republican senator, the one who sponsored the defensive marriage act in the '90s came out in gay marriage. the senator writes i have come to believe that if two people have can come to made a commitment to care for one another in good times and in bad, the government should not deny their right to be married. he became the only republican senator to be pro gay marriage. what is more interesting is what he credits for tran formation. two years ago he explains my son told my wife and me that he is gay. at the time, my same sex cups marriage rooted a seek red bond between man and woman knowing hi
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my son is guy prompted know consider the issue from another perspective. this little moment, little moment of personal empathy a son coming out to a father, has been a huge part of this social revolution we're all seeing and it shows why as dan savage said earlier why coming out is a foundational act upon why gay eequality is built. until people know their friend and brothers and daughters are guy. and it is not just guy rights, senator mark kirk from illinois suffered a stroke a year ago. since experiencing a life-altering and debilitating emergency he told the "chicago sun-times" he has a new perspective on medicaid. he said would he like to take a fresh look at the state's program. during last year's presidential campaign republican vice presidential candidate paul ryan claimed he thought social security was an important program. his policies didn't support that necessarily. that's what he said.
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because when he explained his father died tragically as a teenager his mom was able to keep the family afloat thanks to social security survivor benefits. new jersey republican chris christie was no federal tax spend liberal but when hurricane sandy devastatf devastated his states he became one of the most vocal advocate for the government to spend billions immediately to help out his and other states. for his republican governor rick squlot spent years and millions of dollars of his own money fighting obama care tooth and nail now says he supports that laws expansion of medicaid in his state. the governor said his change of heart came when his own elderly mother died last year. empathy, especially in elected officials, is a good thing. but there is also something frustratingly blinkered and limited about this form of persuasion. if it's going to take every anti-gay politician having a gay son to treat everyone like everyone else in the country
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the bill ending the death penalty now goes to governor o'malley who fought for legislation and vowed to sign it. he has ln been a long time opponent promising since 2007 to push for repeal and make an attempt in 2009. the numbers were not in his favor until now. the death penalty repeal needed 71 votes to pass the house of delegates, today it got 82. today is a pretty remarkable string of victories against the death penalty. before 2007 only 12 states abolished the death penalty. six years ago legislate eers in the state of new jersey became the first since the '70s to abolish it. in 2009, new mexico repealed the death penalty followed by
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illinois in 2011. will more states follow? joining us now is the president of the naacp ben ellis. thank for being here tonight. >> thank you. >> you worked very hard. >> yes. >> the naacp worked hard. >> yes. >> how does this get a done? >> it was down because folks were going door to door. call centers, catholic church. people who frankly had come off of death row like kirk bloo bloodsworth because they were innocent. parents who lost children to murder standing up and saying my child didn't believe in this. so it was bottom up. but it also, we add governor who had the courage to step forward. and lieutenant government who intends to be the next governor. encouraged us to step forward and say, this is the right thing to do. this is the second year in a row. i've stood next to a governor who is former prosecutor who
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says, look, i know this from both side. and this is the right thing to do. we just got to get it done. >> that governor in question, because i think this plays into politics, governor o'malley, often talked about. and this is one of the speculative things, but he is also a contender in 2016 democratic primary. >> yes. >> i wonder what it says about the politics of the issue and where they are, that he is so out front on this issue, given the fact that he does have national political aspirations or is said to have national political aspirations. >> 24 is proof that prepresidential politics changed in this country. 20 years ago, we add young governor like this governor from south of the mason dixon line who was running for president, who felt the need to stop during his campaign to execute three people. including one who was so mentally retarded. that's the term the court uses. that he saved his dessert thinking he would come back after execution to finish it.
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and it was seen as sort after necessary evil. >> speaking of bill clinton. >> yes. yes, yes. that's no lodnger the case. and this governor, today, he supported marriage equality last year. supported the dream act. championing the end of the death penalty. standing next to him is his lieutenant governor, who you know, let's be clear, president obama hasn't been a real champion for abolishing the death penalty. >> right. >> and this man who is thought of perhaps as the next generation rising black politicians, out there very clear saying, look, i have black sons. and when you look at the innocent, who gets swept up, they are disproportionately black. so i think this really speaks to the fact that the politics of our country is evolving. even as the issue changes. >> we have brian stevenson who is an amazing guy, on my show,
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doing work in alabama. >> tremendous lawyer. >> tremendous lawyer. and i think what is interesting is the argument made in the states on fiscal lines. right, that there is some sort of way of using this kind of political judo to take the contours of the austerity boundaries, right? and people say, we got to cut and we don't have money and turn around and say, you know what, this death penalty is an incredibly, incredibly, incredibly waste full undertaking. >> is actually i think really hard to be conservative. and to defend the death penalty. you saw it today. people just get down and say, it is just retribution. typically what conservatives say is that a, the states shouldn't act like god, one. b, if something isn't working we shouldn't do it. and if it isn't working and it is really expensive, we shouldn't do that either. that is absolutely the argument that, you know, was made. and it's very compelling. but it is also in the context of having more and more innocent
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people coming off of death row. in the context of having more and more murder victims families stand up and say, you know what, the far right wing victims rights movement doesn't speak for us. all of that is very important. >> the supreme court put a kind of marker down about the number of states that would have to ban the death penalty before it would fall into the unconstitutional parameters of cruel and unusual. and you, ben jealous, and naacp are helping march that way. >> thank you. >> god bless, man. did you know the obama administration has under its current legal authority the ability to make serious progress on the issues of carbon emissions? like without congress, without a vote, the administration can just do it. which is why what the administration did today is serious move. that's coming up. i work for one. that company, the united states postal service® works for thousands of home businesses. because at usps.com® you can pay, print
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we, the people, still believe that our obligations as americans are not just to ourselves, but to all posterity. we will respond to the threat of climate change. knowing that failure to do so would betray our children and future generations.
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some may still deny the overwhelming judgment of science, but none can avoid the devastating impact of raging fires and crippling drought and more powerful storms. >> and the occasion of being sworn in as president for the second time, when he likely commanded about as much attention of the country as he ever will. president obama put climate change front and center. one of the first issues he talked about in detail in his inaugural address after first addressing the economic issues. he went right to climate change. came before immigration before he talked about detail in war even. he did the same thing during his state of the union address less than a month later. after first tackling the economy. he went directly to climate change. >> i urge this congress to get together, pursue a bipartisan marked based solution to climate change like the one john mccain and joe leiberman worked on together a few years ago. but, if congress won't act soon to protect future generations, i will.
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i will direct -- i will direct my cabinet to come up with executive actions we can take now and in the future to reduce pollution, prepare our communities for the consequences of climate change, and speed the transition to more sustainable sources of energy. it provoked both bouts of hope and angsest disappointment among those fighting to save the plan fret burning to a crisp. there are two very important things a president can do alone without having to go through congress. without having to overcome a certain fill bustener the senate or go through the house. one has gotten a lot of attention. chances are you have already heard about it. it is the approval, the keystone pipeline designed to bring the tar sands of canada down to the gulf of mexico. tar sands are dirtier more carbon intense form of oil. and creating in pipeline would be in the words of nasa climate scientist james hansen, would be like creating the fuse to the biggest carbon bomb on the
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planet. people in the know had supposed all along that keystone was a done deal wp but a remashable group of activist delaying it at every turn and continuing to delay it which in turns made it a tp tier issue force republicans who simply cannot understand why we are still not pumping canadian oil sand into texas already. >> you know there's one major shovel-ready project ready to go, and that's the keystone pipeline. >> called the keystone xl pipeline. and it's he a no-brainer but has been blocked by the obama administration for four years. >> we are absolutely committed as the republican team to keep the keystone pipeline on the front burner. >> approving this pipeline seems like a no-brainer. >> keystone is an obvious close. >> there is no reason for the keystone pipeline to be blocked another day. >> in case you are are curious the third clip is a block.
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the ketone is one change the president can effect on his own. thanks so the supreme court's ruling in massachusetts versus epa in 2007 decision little not outside of energy circles, it was determined that the epa could under its existing authority under the clean air act regulate carbon as a pollutant. they could promulgate binding rules that would make it very difficult for dirty power plants to continue operating as they are now. this was the crucial freighted sub text when the president said in the state of the union address he would prefer a cap and trade plan like john mccain and joe lieberman proposed, but if congress didn't act, he was. that was the sub text that hung in the air when he said he would act on climate change if congress did not. that was the sub text when he nominated gina mccarthy to be head of the epa, because besides
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being one of mitt romney's top officials back when he accepted the science on climate change, aside from that, she is also the person most recently running the division that overseas clean air at the epa and proposed rules, stringent ones, on new power plants, which brings us to today's news, which is important but completely and totally buried. as part of this on-going battle happening outside the view of the public, we got notice today those regulations, the ones that gina mccarthy oversaw of new power plants that could dramatically reduce carbon emissions are going to be delayed, reviewed further, and likely revised. this is, of course, occasion for the grinding of teeth. public attention matters. in the absence of public attention, the white house will
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body of the president. >> the nation of venezuela had the state funeral for hugo chavez who died tuesday. that does not mean they buried hugo chavez. all week, people have been waiting to pay respects to his casket. they were still doing it today, even as the funeral was getting under way. but this is not a last chance see him now or the opportunity will be lost forever kind of lineup. what we have learned is that president chavez will be embalmed and placed in a glass box on permanent display. the vice president who became the new president explained this way, quote, the people can have him forever. >> they're going to preserve his body forever. since the initial reporting, we learned that the permanent installation may not happen after all. the vice president who is the country's acting president announced his handlers may have waited too long for that to work. russian and german scientists arrived to embalm chavez and say
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it is difficult because the process should have started earlier. maybe we can't do it. government sources told reuters to expect a formal announcement this week. the permanent embalming is not possible. it is not surprisingly a time sensitive proposition. he died a week and a half ago. his body has been embalmed, just not with the kind of super specialized techniques needed to preserve it forever. decision to try to preserve his body was made two days after he died. the acting vice president now says that was too long. the decision was made too late. one embalmer said a body needs to be treated within hours of death unless kept refrigerated. by the time they decided to put the late president on permanent display, it was likely already too late. but it is not too late to investigate which it was ordinary cancer that killed him or cancer caused by poisoning by dark forces that wanted chavez dead and managed to weaponize ca